The Rise, Fall, and Redemption of Cyberpunk 2077’s Subreddit


It was inevitable. Cyberpunk 2077 had merely existed within the hype cycle for too lengthy. When it lastly arrived in early December, after quite a few delays, controversies, sizzle reels, and previews, it felt as if a shrieking, collective mania was doomed to subsume the tradition. All of this power, lastly exhausted, in a single white-hot second. Few studios take pleasure in CD Projekt Red’s twin pedigree; each an indie messiah and a gargantuan triple-A moneymaker, and when the corporate introduced they’d be leaving The Witcher behind for a sojourn in Mike Pondsmith’s shiny, gutter-tech Cyberpunk universe again in 2012, it already appeared just like the hype was boiling to a harmful smoke level. Naturally, by the tip of 2020, Cyberpunk taught the remaining of the gaming business a beneficial lesson; in case your product stumbles out of the gate after years and years of advertising and marketing hype, your group will let you understand. And in Cyberpunk’s case, this was nowhere extra evident than in its subreddit.

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You know the story. Cyberpunk 2077 launched to an ovation of optimistic evaluations for the PC model, with caveats. Critics famous a litany of bugs and hiccups, and additionally, forebodingly, confirmed that they didn’t obtain codes for both the PS4 or Xbox One. Given how rickety Cyberpunk was on high-powered PCs, that appeared like a very unhealthy omen. The base consoles are considerably much less highly effective than what’s attainable on a contemporary desktop, so how would they maintain up underneath Night City’s glowing skylines?

Not effectively, because it turned out. At the stroke of midnight on December 10, 2020, Twitter slowly started billowing with damning proof of Cyberpunk’s cut-corners and technical shortcomings on its console variations. AI was confirmed fragile, mercurial, and easily broken. Car models were falling out of the sky. Some gamers stated that they have been fortunate to attain 720p on their dear LCD screens, and that usually, the framerate nosedived to about 20 frames per second. As a lot as Twitter felt explosive, the excoriation was most brutal by itself subreddit. Once a spot saturated with buoyant, carefree Cyberpunk hype, the discourse now flared with more and more dire accusations towards the writer. “This game is unfinished and a total disaster!” wrote one person, who earned 34,000 upvotes. “Can’t believe I’m saying this, but this game needs another year of development time,” chimed in one other, for 33,000 extra.

Once a spot saturated with buoyant, carefree Cyberpunk hype, the discourse now flared with more and more dire accusations towards the writer.


It’s exhausting to overemphasize simply how shortly the tone on the discussion board shifted. Cellymdewitt, the person who posted that aforementioned “unfinished and a total disaster!” thread, tells me that, for essentially the most half, the r/Cyberpunk group spent its time within the prerelease cycle lusting over the scintillating map of Night City, or producing their very own adoring Johnny Silverhand memes. Nobody noticed the approaching revolt. “I guess people were mostly excited and were trusting CD Projekt Red,” says Cellymdewitt. “I know that the gaming community can be overly excited about things and weirdly toxic, so I tried to keep my expectations [in check.] But I was still waiting for something really good.” Once Cellymdewitt noticed how poorly his copy of Cyberpunk ran on base consoles, he determined to chop bait and delete the sport from his exhausting drive. Next 12 months, he would possibly give it one other shot, after just a few extra of the glitches are ironed out.

This is not a very novel saga. Countless different video games have discovered the identical destiny all through historical past. Think of No Man’s Sky, or Fallout 76, or for the true oldheads on the market, Daikatana. But one thing about this debacle was extra fraught than ordinary. If a member of the family in any other case unplugged from the gaming information cycle talked about it to you, that’s as a result of it made mainstream information. The hype for this explicit Cyberpunk escaped the orbit of gaming itself.The mud has settled a bit since these chaotic days — the Cyberpunk drama has ceded the highlight to much more urgent considerations on this planet — and I used to be curious to regroup with some of the individuals who lived via each twist and flip within the narrative. I reached out to the moderators of r/Cyberpunk; the individuals chargeable for maintaining the discussions civil, even when the group is on the brink of mutiny. I spoke to a person who goes by Dani, who forwarded my questions alongside to the remaining of the mod panel. Dani edited their solutions collectively with the intention to provide a holistic voice of their experiences. According to them, the workforce introduced on 5 extra members within the weeks earlier than Cyberpunk’s launch, as the entire quantity of subscribers swelled from 500,000 to 800,000. Each of them believed that the largest points they’d face as the sport hit entered the ecosystem could be the same old mob of unhealthy actors desirous to spoil the enjoyable for everybody else by posting early spoilers.

“We expected a lot of malicious users posting spoilers intentionally, but we realized a few weeks after launch that that would become the least of our worries,” says Dani, later including, “We expected a forest fire, and we got a meteor strike.”

Initially, says Dani, because the evaluations hit the web and it grew to become clear that Cyberpunk was hamstrung by some classic, Skyrim-style open-world jank, a quantity of customers put their religion within the promise of the Day One Patch — a traditional bit of gamedev chicanery aimed to squash just a few lingering bugs that the studio could not attend to earlier than the discs hit manufacturing. In truth, the bulk of the group stayed solely optimistic about CD Projekt Red’s final intentions.

“When CDPR blocked the release of gameplay footage, we had assumed that was to prevent spoilers. We were strict on that, classifying any footage outside of CDPR released as leaks, and were removed,” provides Dani. Of course, bedlam broke unfastened as quickly as the sport made it out into the wild.

“Toxic traffic absolutely drowned out any form of discussion, and those that posted anything positive were shunned. It was an act of balance for us; if we delete the criticisms, we would be considered CDPR corporate rats, but if we allowed the criticisms, we were allowing the subreddit to turn into a cesspool of hate and toxicity,” they inform me. “As a team, we decided to go with the latter, as long as the post wasn’t just a ‘I hate this game CDPR sucks’ low-effort kind. We just wanted to make sure the criticisms were constructive and removed any harassing messages.”

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When the workforce thinks again to these wild weeks now, their reminiscence drifts to a litany of matters and controversies that occupied the highest half of the discussion board. The complaints ranged from hyper-specific, (“my hairstyle changes when I put on a hat!”) to nearly existential in scope; some doubting the integrity of CD Projekt Red, and mourning the unconsummated near-decade that many gamers have been ready for this sport.

“Eight years of hype ended in two days for me,” wrote one person, in the immediate aftermath of the discharge. “My girlfriend gifted this game to me after me constantly getting hyped over the trailers and whatnot but now I feel really sad that I just can’t enjoy this game as I should have. This was supposed to be the next big thing and I’m sure I’ll come back to it after they update it more, but first impressions matter, and I’m really disappointed in CDPR.”

However, the amount of grievances have been so excessive, they drowned out any dialogue of what the sport did proper, which was nonetheless a lot. “A lot of the user base were getting tired of the lack of discussion, and at one point a user asked us to disallow any form of criticism,” says Dani. “We eventually decided to allow media posts back to let the users vent their frustrations in meme format; it worked as best as it could, I suppose. It got worse again when Sony announced they were allowing full refunds, and worse still when they pulled the game from the store. The patches did little to alleviate the stress of the users, and the sub got busier as the holidays rode in.”

However, the amount of grievances have been so excessive, they drowned out any dialogue of what the sport did proper, which was nonetheless a lot.


In truth, some customers, who have been having fun with Cyberpunk regardless of some of its hitches, finally burnt out on the fixed negativity. A gaggle of them began an alternate subreddit, entitled r/LowSodiumCyberpunk, which is described as a “fun and lighthearted” place to debate the sport — an alternative choice to the all-devouring negativity on its main discussion board. “The constant complaining drove me away,” says a person, who goes by Beethy, who’s one of these refugees. “People were outright hateful towards the developers. It got pretty ugly in there.” Beethy notes that they performed on a PC and discovered minimal bugs throughout their time with the sport, and factors to the PS3 variations of Red Dead Redemption and Grand Theft Auto IV, each of which had their share of bugs and body price swoons upon launch, as precedent for Cyberpunk’s shaky efficiency on base consoles. “People have short term memories,” provides Beethy.

The angst has simmered significantly on the primary Cyberpunk subreddit since then. CD Projekt Red nonetheless has a lot to reply for — the dearth of transparency of their assessment distribution, the occasions that noticed these base console variations despatched into the wild — however the additional we orbit away from this calamity, the extra individuals have come to understand that beneath all of the rubble, Cyberpunk 2077 generally is a compelling online game. In truth, Dani tells me most of the content material they see on the subreddit proper now consists of followers lusting over both Panam and Judy. That is how you understand a fandom has been firmly licensed; when it has a corresponding legion of shippers.All that stated, it’s not exhausting to see a launch like this occurring once more sooner or later. This downside is not going anyplace; this business animates itself on hype, and improvement cycles are solely ballooning into more and more audacious timeframes. (It took seven years for us to obtain The Last of Us 2. It will seemingly be greater than a decade till we get the subsequent fully-fledged Elder Scrolls.) I hope that sometime quickly, studio administration will not concern admitting to their audiences that video video games are inherently mortal creations. How they take a look at an E3 showcase is solely irrelevant; there are seemingly lots of of wonky animations and obtuse bugs simmering underneath the hood. That’s been true for roughly each open-world sport since Grand Theft Auto III, it doesn’t matter what a flashy advertising and marketing cycle could have you ever consider. Cyberpunk 2077 would possibly’ve at all times been janky upon launch, however for many who had been ready for it for eight years, that should not have been a shock.

Luke Winkie is a author and former pizza maker in Brooklyn. Follow him on Twitter.




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